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[Osbourne Kilminster]

What's stupid is fat guys wearing little more than sparkly Y-fronts on TV. Seriously. That guy ears enough money to get a gym membership. Don't make excuses for the pie-eating cunt.

[Jackson]

What's stupid is fat guys wearing little more than sparkly Y-fronts on TV. Seriously. That guy ears enough money to get a gym membership. Don't make excuses for the pie-eating cunt.

Are you jealous of Jericho??

[Osbourne Kilminster]

Jealous of his money, maybe. LOL.

[Tim]

Jericho sucks. 

Jericho was better back in the day with the long hair and constantly making fun of Stephanie McMahon and Kurt Angle.

Blargh.

Seriously disagree.  In fact, I prefer the current Jericho.  Why?  Because he's right.  He's horrible, he's evil, and yet, he constantly tells the truth and gets booed for it.  The whole reason he turned heel in the first place a year ago was because he called out Shawn Michaels on lying about an injury.  And he was right, and people still booed him.  Recently, he bitched at edge for having bones made of dried soup and getting injured so often.  again, he's right.  Again, people boo.  Why?  Because wrestling marks are fucking morons and part of the reason that the product is more and more devoid of quality.

Same reason why I like the CM Punk heel turn.  He gets booed for TELLING THE TRUTH about Jeff "I'm a fucktard drug addict." Hardy.  Still, morons boo mindlessly.  I like these characters.  They're almost smakry heels that you have to cheer for if you have five brain cells.

Oh yeah, and they still put on better matches than everyone else, even if they have more than 3 percent body fat.

[Sinnybuns/Mika]

Jericho sucks. 

Jericho was better back in the day with the long hair and constantly making fun of Stephanie McMahon and Kurt Angle.

Blargh.

Seriously disagree.  In fact, I prefer the current Jericho.  Why?  Because he's right.  He's horrible, he's evil, and yet, he constantly tells the truth and gets booed for it.  The whole reason he turned heel in the first place a year ago was because he called out Shawn Michaels on lying about an injury.  And he was right, and people still booed him.  Recently, he bitched at edge for having bones made of dried soup and getting injured so often.  again, he's right.  Again, people boo.  Why?  Because wrestling marks are fucking morons and part of the reason that the product is more and more devoid of quality.

Same reason why I like the CM Punk heel turn.  He gets booed for TELLING THE TRUTH about Jeff "I'm a fucktard drug addict." Hardy.  Still, morons boo mindlessly.  I like these characters.  They're almost smakry heels that you have to cheer for if you have five brain cells.

Oh yeah, and they still put on better matches than everyone else, even if they have more than 3 percent body fat.

Better matches maybe...but they boo him because he's fucking boring.  I change the channel when he comes on.  Honestly, yeah, he's a fine wrestler...but being in WWE, you have to have the whole package, decent on-screen character and wrestling skills.  He's got one, but not the other. 

He just sucks.

Let's agree to disagree.

[Rex]

CM Punk and Jericho are the best heels WWE has. Best stars they have also. You hate them, and that means they are doing their jobs. The only heels that have ever made me hate them to where I wished the face would just crush their face were Triple H, Y2J, Kurt Angle, and CM Punk. And if they can make me hate them that much I usually like them out of simply having respect for them. CM Punk and Y2J do infact have the entire package. When they are heels you hate their guts, and when they are face you want them to win every match and every championship.

[Tim]

Jericho sucks. 

Jericho was better back in the day with the long hair and constantly making fun of Stephanie McMahon and Kurt Angle.

Blargh.

Seriously disagree.  In fact, I prefer the current Jericho.  Why?  Because he's right.  He's horrible, he's evil, and yet, he constantly tells the truth and gets booed for it.  The whole reason he turned heel in the first place a year ago was because he called out Shawn Michaels on lying about an injury.  And he was right, and people still booed him.  Recently, he bitched at edge for having bones made of dried soup and getting injured so often.  again, he's right.  Again, people boo.  Why?  Because wrestling marks are fucking morons and part of the reason that the product is more and more devoid of quality.

Same reason why I like the CM Punk heel turn.  He gets booed for TELLING THE TRUTH about Jeff "I'm a fucktard drug addict." Hardy.  Still, morons boo mindlessly.  I like these characters.  They're almost smakry heels that you have to cheer for if you have five brain cells.

Oh yeah, and they still put on better matches than everyone else, even if they have more than 3 percent body fat.

Better matches maybe...but they boo him because he's fucking boring.  I change the channel when he comes on.  Honestly, yeah, he's a fine wrestler...but being in WWE, you have to have the whole package, decent on-screen character and wrestling skills.  He's got one, but not the other. 

He just sucks.

Let's agree to disagree.

If wrestling marks booed boring people Batista would have been fired years ago.

I'll agree to disagree because I really don't understand why he's so much worse all of a sudden.  Would you prefer he go back to making nothing but dumb boob jokes at Steph's expense?  Idk, I always thought that period of time where everyone loved him so much (2001-2004) was probably his worst.  I think self-parodying heel of 98-2000 and the current villain are more entertaining.  Though, to be fair, they still aren't enough to get me to tune into WWE often enough.

[Mad Dog]

What's stupid is fat guys wearing little more than sparkly Y-fronts on TV. Seriously. That guy ears enough money to get a gym membership. Don't make excuses for the pie-eating cunt.

I guess you weren't around in the earlier days of wrestling then.

[Mad Dog]

That's because all wrestling is boring once you watch about 3 years of it straight.

Every persona, every gimmick and every match has been done ad nauseam.

[Osbourne Kilminster]

Oh yeah, and they still put on better matches than everyone else, even if they have more than 3 percent body fat.

Do you even know what someone with 3% body fat looks like? I doubt it. It's a condition that can be held for mere hours, a day at the most. Look it up before you reference it. Triple H , even at his most ripped, is probably no lower than 8 or 9% and that's only because he has to do conditioning rather than mass since his injuries prevent that 2006-type route.

Might not bother me so much if Jericho had always been a fat fuck, but he used to have an admirable physique and now he just looks fuckin' lazy.

[Tim]

Oh yeah, and they still put on better matches than everyone else, even if they have more than 3 percent body fat.

Do you even know what someone with 3% body fat looks like? I doubt it. It's a condition that can be held for mere hours, a day at the most. Look it up before you reference it. Triple H , even at his most ripped, is probably no lower than 8 or 9% and that's only because he has to do conditioning rather than mass since his injuries prevent that 2006-type route.

Might not bother me so much if Jericho had always been a fat fuck, but he used to have an admirable physique and now he just looks fuckin' lazy.

It was a joke, dude, exaggeration.  I'm well aware that anyone with three percent body fat is probably suffering from malnutrition.

[Big Ed Johnson]

My take is that it's not the stars that are so bad, it's "creative"...  It's not a cop out, it's truly why both WWE and TNA are in a LUL...

I disagree that everythings been done before as well, at this point, I just believe Vince isn't pushing his writers in any sort of direction because he doesnt have to with TNA as competition...

TNA creative should be shot execution style, period.  I've witnessed better programs in local gyms and fairgrounds then what they are doing in TNA...  It started out as a few no-namers with one or three named guys to give it credibility, and then someone somewhere hit the pipe and flooded the roster with guys that felt they were working too hard elsewhere... 

Next time you watch TNA, ESPECIALLY M.E.M.  Watch the acting/writing...

Sting:  You know Kurt, the thing is, the thing is, Kurt, that you have GOT to understand, Kurt, that it is about integrity...  Integrity, Kurt, is what it is all about...

Kurt:  Waitjustaminute Sting, hold on Stinger, You don't have to tell me about integrity, Sting.  I won an olympic Gold medal with a broken neck, Sting, so ....

It goes on that way with ALL the wrestlers...  Watch it, and see if it annoys you as much as it does me...

As far as WWE goes, it's just going through the motions...  I like punk as face OR heel, and their roster on all shows is solid...  I dont watch the bastardized ECW out of spite, but I've been known to read WWES results...  Neither Jeff nor Matt Hardy should talk, PERIOD, they should just stick to wrestling.  I like Jericho back in his WCW throw a tantrum days, I agree Batista is a douche of EPIC porportions, BUT, when compared with an ABYSS, or a Booker/Steiner, or Beer Money INC, or you can bet your bottom dollar I'll sit through the Batista match...

Here is something I'm going to try in another thread, Starting This week, 4 shows, 4 rosters, I'll give a quick rundown of something Id do with the programs roster to make it more to my liking.  I challenge any of you with spare time to do the same.

   

[Osbourne Kilminster]

IMHO, WWE has one good roster split between two shows and boosted uo with "talent" than can be described as filler at best. ECW doesn't even count. You can tell the state of WWE when Randy Orton and Cena are two of the biggest stars. That's bad. I mean, you know, I'm biased here to some extent (possibly) but they have a legit claimant to being one of the strongest men to EVER walk this Earth and they job him out like a lil bitch? Mark Henry as a brand has infiitely more potential than Vince has recognised, and that's tragic, especially when you consider the way Big Slow is pushed down out throats.


TNA has a good roster, but as has been remarked, is poorly used. Steiner could still pull off a muscle-monster gimmick, even with his fucked up leg/foot/whatever. Booker T did much better as a face in WCW. Kurt Angle, I'm mixed on because I admire the Hell out of the guy but when your injuries force you to cut nearly 40lbs of muscle mass and mean you can't take the kind of bumps you should be in the wrestling business, you have to be thinking about whether it's time to give it a miss, right? Sting, I never "got". Maybe I'm alone in that, but I always thought his using The Crow thing is lame, and I loved that movie.

Fuck 'em all.

[Jackson]

Next time you watch TNA, ESPECIALLY M.E.M.  Watch the acting/writing...

Sting:  You know Kurt, the thing is, the thing is, Kurt, that you have GOT to understand, Kurt, that it is about integrity...  Integrity, Kurt, is what it is all about...

Kurt:  Waitjustaminute Sting, hold on Stinger, You don't have to tell me about integrity, Sting.  I won an olympic Gold medal with a broken neck, Sting, so ....

It goes on that way with ALL the wrestlers...  Watch it, and see if it annoys you as much as it does me...

Know what's more fun? Watching old Royal Rumbles from the 90's, and counting how many times Hogan says "brother" and Macho Man/King says "yeah". HILARIOUS!

[silas]

I fucking hate CM Punk because that 'straight edge' hardcore trend went out of style like... 7 or so years ago, so the whole gimmick is fucking retarded.  it was a trend started by kids who listened to the likes of bane, comeback kid, minor threat... actual hardcore bands, and this motherfucker comes out to i think killswitch engage?  really fucking stupid.

wwe should really look into what they want to portray, and do some actual research.  because in the end cm punk looks like a fucking idiot for having a gimmick that went out of style long before hardcore ever even died.